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Minutes Attendance Member Email Jim
Ellsworth jbelsworth@aol.com Dave
Popp davepopp@psu.edu Stephanie
Roberts Stephanie.Roberts@unco.edu Kathy
Sindt ksindt@msubillings.edu Debra
Dirksen drddirk@aol.com Deborah
Bauder dbauder@romecsd.org Barbara
Rosenfield rosenfel@cybernex.net Josh
Kirby jak413@psu.edu Michael
Savoy mrs331@psu.edu Roberto
Joseph rojoseph@indiana.edu Charlie
Reigeluth reigelut@indiana.edu Joanne
Bentley kiwi@cc.usu.edu Sari
Pascoe spascoe@indiana.edu Daniel
Pascoe dpascoe@indiana.edu Melda N. Yil
Diz yildizm@wpunj.edu Wes
Leggett wes@wesleggett.com The single greatest
problem facing AECT and the Council for Systemic Change is
member communications. It is easy to leave and have no sense
of being apart of things until the next conference. We have
a mammoth and static website. There was some discussion as
to the reason the website has remained static for two years.
There have been some miscommunication problems or technical
difficulties that have made it difficult for communication
officers to gain access to update the site. Jim had to leave, so
Debra Dirksen continued the meeting. Statement
of Mission -- Charlie Reigeluth Charlie Reigeluth
provided a statement of the mission of the Council for
Systemic Change from the foundation. Charlie indicated that
much of the motivation was a feeling that for technology to
be able to reach its potential contribution to education,
that there was a fundamental need to look at it’s
effect and distribution across education. Technology allows
us to transform learning and the classroom. We need to talk
about transformation rather than integration. Many
approaches have been piecemeal. Things are not changing
because there are parts that are being systemically ignored.
There was a real need to raise awareness within the
association, nationally, and internationally about the need
for systemic thinking for bring about change in education.
There is a need to think about a more comprehensive approach
to systemic change. Our primary approach was to help members
to understand what Systemic Change is and enhance our
knowledge within that area. How
Change became a Council rather than a Division -- Debra
Dirksen Debra discussed the
idea that was presented by Jim Ellsworth and Jason Ravitz,
where research would be posted to a listserv and a
discussion carried out over 1, 2, or 3 months. Jason has
volunteered to provide current
research. Alternative
Presentation Formats? -- Barbara
Rosenfield Barbara asked about
the idea of creating alternative presentation formats, which
was discussed in Denver, 2000. A brief discussion ensued
regarding the alternative formats that were attempted in
last years Atlanta Conference, 2001 Why
are people not at this meeting? A Systemic View -- Stephanie
Roberts Stephanie suggested
that we think systemically about why people aren’t
here in this membership meeting. A lot of the reason people
aren’t here is because they’re not aware that we’re
here. I would first challenge this group to think about this
systemically, how do we generate that awareness. How do we
get the information into their hands? How do we get Systemic
Change content into the degree programs at a very basic
level, so that all the programs are providing their students
with information about change research? What
is systemic change? -- Deb and Charlie There were some
questions about what systemic change is, Debra provided a
brief explanation of approaching change by involving all
stakeholders within an organization. Charlie continued by
adding that there is a fundamental notion that different
learners learn at different rates. By holding time constant
we’re forcing achievement to vary. If we want to focus
on learning, we have to hold achievement constant, then we
force time to vary, and no one is left behind. Everything is
time based. The focus is on sorting. The assessment system
forces this. We need to look at the assessment system so
that it is a check off that everyone meets over time and
affects the whole system. Marketing
the Change Council -- Joanne Bentley Joanne commented that
it seems we need to be looking at marketing of the change
council and position ourselves with other divisions, helping
them to understand why they should care about systemic
change. Articles in Tech
Trend Guest editorial in
other division newsletters, how are we related to what you
are. Then recruit
people. Schedule divisions
and councils at different times. Joanne is taking the
lead on marketing, an article for tech trends, with
volunteers from Council Members who are members of other
divisions to write a piece on their division and change.
Infomercial piece. TechTrends to be
devoted to change Emergence
of Two-Pronged Approach -- Stephanie
Roberts There is a lack of
dialogue on interaction and collaboration. We need to engage
people with each other, discuss research gaps, and what
things we need to be addressing. There needs to be open
conversation. We need to create interactive rather than
static instruments. Combine the best of a bulletin board and
the best of a listserv. Archive information like a bulletin
board as well as the benefit of the immediacy and dynamic
nature of the listserv. Combine bulletin board with a
listserv. Build in a function and a query. Summarize and a
digest is delivered to a listserv. What
type of communication is needed? What kinds of
communications do we want to be facilitating, along with a
nice marketing strategy that goes beyond Tech Trends. We
need to develop a whole communications structure that all
interested could participate in and utilize.The following
volunteered to work on the communication
initiative: David Popp Stephanie
Roberts Chris
Essex Jason
Ravitz Continued
Marketing Strategies It was suggest that
we have some sessions here at the conference on what change
classes look like – panel – bring it on to
peoples radar screens about why they should care about
Systemic Change. Create the awareness in the graduate
students so that they’ll ask for a class in Systemic
Change to be part of their programs. Sponsor a workshop on
systemic change – about the course and then how do you
get students to care about or want to take the class. Election will be
conducted electronically, and will be completed no later
than Dec 16. Debra Dirksen will send election results to all
members.Adjournment Meeting was adjourned
at 5:50 p.m.
November 15, 2002
Dallas, TX
Introduction
MeetingStatement
of Mission
How
Change became a Council rather than a
Division
Alternative
Presentation Formats
Why
are people not at this meeting? A Systemic
View
What
is systemic change?
Marketing
the Change Council
Emergence
of Two-Pronged Approach
What
type of communication is
needed?
Continued
Marketing Strategies
The desire was expressed that we build a society of
community here. Foster a community and collaboration. We
need to have civil rules of engagement and follow
those.
The emphasis is not just on change in education, but
systemic change. Looking at those interrelationships.
One function is for each of us to share with each other what
we know and what we learn. But we need to go beyond, serving
a broader function of helping others within the
organization. Helping the other divisions to understand why
systemic change is important to them. Systemic Change is an
important issue for all AECT members. Issues of
organizational change are important to what they are going
to do. I’d like to see this division assume a
leadership role in helping create an interest within the
organization and the broader community.
We should get students enrolled in existing Change classes
to enroll on to the list, and get faculty across the country
who teach Change courses to support and use the list.
Add a resource area to the website where we can place
syllabi and other resources from existing courses.
We should post things to other forums, for instance the IT
Forum, post to another forum with a large readership –
gather a momentum. Find another audience that we can use to
lure people into our discussions.
We should post foundational documents on the web site if
they are not already there.
Sari questioned, are we prepared to sustain these
efforts?Elections